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Hello Ed -2!
04-10-2019, 10:42 PM
Post: #31
RE: Hello Ed -2!
Quote:How about you? Anything going one? Do you have a family? If so, do they keep you busy?


similar family /lot of jobs outdoor/ spring time etc..etc
so very small amount of time for programming ehh


qb64 ..hate - well hate is a strong word Big Grin
better is so-so ..not like very much
my poszt on retro is just a comment
those qb people sims that have some troubles about team work
but as i said who care....Smile
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04-12-2019, 06:12 PM
Post: #32
RE: Hello Ed -2!
Do you figured what is a main problem with qb64?
,,and why i on't like it ?
just look on that forum ...they fight about how improve
or modernize translator but they don't know how to do that
which is obvious then some of them creates patches which not work
properly ...and all that looking too messy for me.
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04-12-2019, 09:04 PM
Post: #33
RE: Hello Ed -2!
(04-12-2019 06:12 PM)Aurel Wrote:  Do you figured what is a main problem with qb64?
,,and why i on't like it ?
just look on that forum ...they fight about how improve
or modernize translator but they don't know how to do that
which is obvious then some of them creates patches which not work
properly ...and all that looking too messy for me.

I see nothing wrong going on there. There are several passionate folks there, and they have different opinions. They disagree on the semantics of the new _instrrev function.

Folks do have a right to disagree. And they will eventually come up with a consensus.

We have the same sorts of fights at work sometime, trying to decide how to design a certain update to our software. You should see the emails - they get pretty nasty. But eventually, we work everything out.

Release 1.3 (the current release) is very solid. There are several folks there who are updating QB64, and have gotten more and more knowledgeable with it.

I think it all comes down to you just don't like QB64, which is fine. You are of course free to like whatever you like!

QB64 has been around for 10+ years now, and it just keeps getting better.

What about O2? If the only developer there gets tired, who will pick it up?

Galleon left QB64 - and they are still rolling. There are at least 3 folks (maybe more) who are contributing major updates.

So, from my limited viewpoint, there are really only 3 viable/active free Basics:

FreeBASIC - my favorite
QB64 - getting better all the time
O2 - impressive, but the lack of doc's and because I can't hook it up to my editor makes it hard for me to use.

There may be others, but those are the 3 that I know about.
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04-12-2019, 11:16 PM
Post: #34
RE: Hello Ed -2!
-I think it all comes down to you just don't like QB64, which is fine

well i think that is not fine ,something simply ..i don't know?
maybe because is just translator and run on C++ runtime lib.

-What about O2? If the only developer there gets tired, who will pick it up?

Yes that's truth,and that will happend soon or later.
And CP (author) don't care to much about that ..he think
it is open source ..public domain...
he also stated that understanding o2 source code is not easy
first of all because 50% of code is in assembler.



-O2 - impressive, but the lack of doc's and because I can't hook it up to my editor makes it hard for me to use.

If you ask me i will remove 30% of useless things in o2.
I still don't get it what kind of editor you use ???
Yes main problem is in error messages which are not exported
then are just exposed in messagebox...ok for me
but you have a right!
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04-12-2019, 11:18 PM
Post: #35
RE: Hello Ed -2!
Ed
I use windows 7 and on this computer i have problem
with stupid .chm files

..do you know how to fix that maybe?
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04-12-2019, 11:30 PM (This post was last modified: 04-12-2019 11:38 PM by Ed Davis.)
Post: #36
RE: Hello Ed -2!
(04-12-2019 11:18 PM)Aurel Wrote:  Ed
I use windows 7 and on this computer i have problem
with stupid .chm files

..do you know how to fix that maybe?

StackOverFlow is your friend:

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1143...s-canceled

(04-12-2019 11:16 PM)Aurel Wrote:  -I think it all comes down to you just don't like QB64, which is fine

well i think that is not fine ,something simply ..i don't know?
maybe because is just translator and run on C++ runtime lib.

But why should that matter?

The gcc maintainers have spend years optimizing the compiler. In most cases, it generates better code than even good assembly programmers. Only the best assembly coders can beat it.

That being the case, it seems kind of smart to generate C++, and then let gcc optimize it.

Take FreeBASIC. It has a gcc and a gas backend. The gas (e.g., assembly code) backend is cool, but it can be slower than the gcc backend, because, well, it is really, really hard to generate good assembly code.

Quote:-O2 - impressive, but the lack of doc's and because I can't hook it up to my editor makes it hard for me to use.

If you ask me i will remove 30% of useless things in o2.
I still don't get it what kind of editor you use ???
Yes main problem is in error messages which are not exported
then are just exposed in messagebox...ok for me
but you have a right!

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04-13-2019, 04:20 AM
Post: #37
RE: Hello Ed -2!
Quote:The gcc maintainers have spend years optimizing the compiler. In most cases, it generates better code than even good assembly programmers

Ok i can agree with that but still qb64 do not show very good
reults in speed ...it looks to me that is slower than old
Creative Basic which is written in old MS VC++ 5.0.

That editor hmmm...hmmm.. he he ...
sorry man but i don't know what to tell you
it is very old editor from DOS age ..right?
probably u use it ver much trough time
ufff to hard for me to use belive me Huh

Do you try to use something little bit newer like:
Code::Blocks
Programmers Notepad
Notepad++

maybe Aurel Edit ..he he ..Big Grin
well it is open source and with your skills you can add/remove what
you wish ..yes there is quirks in o2 Sad
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04-13-2019, 04:21 AM
Post: #38
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i forgot sshot


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04-13-2019, 04:23 AM
Post: #39
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Well do you see new ugly icons in AurelEdit toolbar Big Grin
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04-21-2019, 10:22 PM
Post: #40
RE: Hello Ed -2!
hey Ed
here is a EASTER hollyday...
so happy EASTER...i am just babeling because i don't have a clue from
where you are ..and is not important..in general


I was just looking into qb64 forum like i do once or twice
a week ..gee i cannot found anything interesting to ,me
but i am still amazed what those people doing there
nothing,,,,Big Grin
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